"(It's) easier to do that than to describe (the suspect) using just words," Bryant said. Today, a new sketch of the suspect, appearing to be in his mid-twenties to mid-thirties. The Monon Railroad was built through Carroll County from 1879 to 1881 and the first train went over the High Bridge in January of 1881. The seemingly out-of-the-blue arrest - in a case in which law enforcement has provided so few updates in the last five and a half years - is evidence that more unexpected turns are on the horizon, say ine and Kevin. So I yelled down and told them that. In that case you could understand her hesitation in coming forward; being so close to being his victim that day would be enough to scare you into silence. I can give you instructions here if you like. I'm not sure, the article says the "witness" saw the man WALKING near Delphi the day after the murders.. And nobody else saw him? So now we have testimony from three excellent sources two independent search party members and an LE source close to the investigation. Also thankful for the efforts of podcasters and reporters was Libby's mom, Carrie Timmons, who told The U.S. Sun in a statement on Monday night: "I am so very grateful for all of the loving support and kind words from friends, family, and even strangers. ine and Kevin said they were touched when relayed Carrie's message of thanks, though added: "We don't see ourselves as anything other than two journalists who have participated in the case. Thanks Remah! Im not sure if the second validated the dolls in trees. The first woman contacted two separate team members in addition to the first person, so shes told at least three separate people so far. What do we know from LE reports/statements to public or to the. They dont even know if there were two killers. We now feel that the cut to this girls throat was with a hatchet, although we do not have confirmation of this other than what looks like a hatchet in BGs right jeans area and reports that investigators went clear out of the state to check out two other hatchet criminals. Unless it's really a 'he', and they say it was a female witness to confuse the killer. This sketch replaces an older sketch that was provided on July 17th, 2017. I wonder if the witness tossed the idea around of "what if I incriminate an innocent person"? Allen, who is married, came forward as a witness in the earlier stages of the investigation, a source told FOX 59. All rights reserved. Quotes displayed in real-time or delayed by at least 15 minutes. [6] The bridge was a common backdrop for photo shoots like senior pictures and wedding photos. One possible twist may lie in the arrest of additional suspects in the weeks and months ahead. Is it possible that the doll or stuff toy came from the old welfare building or CPS building that was torn down? "Many days, that is all that has kept me going. As he looked up to see what it was, that is when he saw them, said Libbys grandma, Becky Patty. If you were parked there or know who was parked there please contact the officer at the command post at the Delphi city building. I mean, if it is then its a hell of a job sleuthing wise. 2020 THE SUN, US, INC. ALL RIGHTS RESERVED | TERMS OF USE | PRIVACY | YOUR AD CHOICES | SITEMAP, Libby German (left) and Abby Williams (right) were found dead in February 2017, Arrested for the two girls' murders last week was 50-year-old Delphi local Richard Allen, Journalist ine Cain and attorney Kevin Greenlee, of The Murder Sheet podcast, expect plenty more twists in the coming weeks and months, Richard Allen is pictured with his wife with a sketch of the Delphi suspect visible in the background, One of the two composite sketches of the possible suspect released by law enforcement is seen above, The only known footage of the suspect was captured by Libby German on her phone, Richard Allen has no known criminal past and is a married pharmacy technician who worked at a local CVS, One of the final images captured by Libby German showed Abby walking along the Monon High Bridge Trial where the girls would ultimately meet their killer, Richard Allen has pleaded not guilty to two counts of murder, Libby and Abby's manners of death have never been disclosed by the police, Delphi murders podcasters predict more bombshell twists in case after killer Richard Allens shocking arrest, Shock pics of Serena Williams' crumbling childhood home revealed as King Richards' legal battle over ownership rages on, Julie Powell shared disturbing tweets about health & 'black hairy tongue' a day before tragic cardiac arrest death at 49, Princess Diana was box office when she was alive - so if you dont like The Crown, dont watch, Heartbreaking new picture of American students killed in Seoul Halloween stampede taken only hours before tragic deaths, Takeoff shooting suspects hunted by Texas cops who urge witnesses to 'step up' after Migos rapper killed at party, Inside 'Killer Sally' McNeil's life after prison for Valentine's Day murder of 'abusive' husband Ray and her remarriage, Mystery deepens in disappearance of flight attendant Sarm Hislop from boyfriend's luxury boat as eerie new CCTV emerges, We spent years trying to find our real father only to discover the chilling truth from our mums doctor. I only (saw). We believe this person is currently between the age range of 18 and 40 but might appear younger than his true age. Do they charge or do they just do it for fun? WLFI article Community continues to search for missing teens, 8. Murder Victim Delphi, Carroll County, Indiana February 13, 2017. On February 22, 2011 police released an audio recording where the man is heard saying Guys Down the hill The recording is credited to Libby, who secretly recorded the suspect. I think if I were Mr X Id be shitting myself right about now and wondering what the hell to do. The stepson, even today, is a dead ringer for Young BG. This "new" sketch was actually created earlier then the "old" sketch according to an Indy Star article,which writes: Master Trooper Taylor Bryant, a sketch artist with Indiana State Police who drew the new sketch, told IndyStar a sketch is based on how a particular witness describes the suspect. Tried to review some LE-provided information regarding the crime scene w/o speculation. Did he work alone as a solo killer? The podcast is hosted by Jim Clemente who worked for the FBI for 22 years, in part as a Supervisory Special Agentinthe Behavioral Analysis Unit andFrancey Hakes, a former federal prosecutor andthe countrys first National Coordinator for Child Exploitation Prevention and Interdiction, a post appointed by the U.S. Attorney General. [18] C wrote on Facebook: I even walked all the way across the bridge and back. Based on my understanding through reading the case so far, there were at least 4 witnesses at around the trail that day at around the time of down the hill (slightly before or after). The next day, two bodies were found in an area along Deer Creek, east of the bridge. This case is like looking through a darkened window of a home, you can see what's going on in the living room but you have no idea what's happening in the kitchen. He did not charge her, she said. CPS building is Crop Protection Services, not Child Protection Services. The supposed screenshots of text messages cannot be verified in any way and will be disregarded by this website. But what we found out recently was he is apparently not the killer. Missing Indiana girl found in basement; arrested suspect investigated in Delphi murders 04/28/2021 12:27 pm PDT Tippecanoe County. "Thats what I guess was the biggest shock.". The previously released sketch. DELPHI MURDERS: WITNESS TIMELINE (MINDSHOCK TRUE CRIME PODCAST)Examining the witnesses around the Monon High Bridge and the trail. The man thought about his words for a bit before wording them very carefully. Comment * document.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "a81b3493f6a12e73f3f44f64949534d4" );document.getElementById("b83dbe3da2").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. The initial contactspecifically happened right at the end of the bridge, on the South East end, where it stops being a bridge and becomes a trail again. It prohibited the attorneys, LE, Court staff, coroner, and family, from commenting publicly or to media, including on social media platforms. This young lady is a hero, theres no doubt, t, activate that video system on her cellphone. Abby did not. 2023 FOX News Network, LLC. If so, how did she find out? Investigators believe the killer of two teen girls is hiding in plain sight in the small community of Delphi, Indiana and that someone who knows the killer may be "afraid" to come forward. Well, if it was a she, then it could have been another young woman who was approached by this man and got away because she saw him as suspicious. To get more specific, onFebruary 22, 2017 Indiana State Police Sgt. "We want to find out what will his case look like going forward. I thought Hughes said the person he heard about had never been mentioned as a POI? I always thought it was child protective services until last year. You've successfully subscribed to this newsletter! Thanks, SMK! Hence LE is refocusing onto the Young BG sketch, who looks like both the young man seen a the bridge that day and the catfish boy used to lure the girls. News sources have also never directly referenced witness sightings of the offender. I think they love to hate you because you are that good! Now onto the match. "I also want to thank all of the reporters, podcasters, and other news and social media outlets for keeping our girls' story relevant and in the public eye. Precisely what evidence police yielded to establish enough probable cause to make the arrest remains unclear: all documents related to the matter have been placed under seal for the time being. building torn down. Multiple news agency were in this news conference on the morning of Wednesday, February 22, 2017. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. I cant believe how any of these detectives do what they do. [7]. If it is an eyewitness account we may have the next "Unibomber" situation where it is not a match at all. Fsg said he saw a couple down by the bridge. WATCH THE DELPHI MURDERS ON FOX NATION. Join the best Delphi sleuthing group of all! It is on the other side of Deer Creek that the bodies are found. Abigail Abby Williams, 13-years old, and her best friend Liberty Libby Rose Lynn German, 14-years old, went hiking near the Monon High Bridge, a part of the historic Trails in Delphi, Indiana on Monday, February 13, 2017. [8] At the time of the homicides, the bridge was still owned by CSX but was unofficially used by the community as a public trail. A complication of this investigation is that because the trail area was being used as if it was a public space the evidence collected could easily be unrelated to the case. Police say the girls mostly talk about 'stuff girls talk about'in the recording, but they also mention the man. It's a name that will now be forever tied to one of the darkest chapters in Delphi history: Richard Allen. "I think that is going to be very interesting to see going forward as we come closer to a possible trial," she went on. Anna on the podcast Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, Episode: Live from CrimeCon: Little Abby & Libby's familiesTimestamp 14:25, 18. Source:Multi-Agency Taskforce Clarifies Points Indiana State Police Bulletin. Chillingly, the trail - a defunct wooden railway track hidden in the woods -had been where Libby and Abby were last seen alive. ", A CVS spokesperson released a statement to Fox News Digital saying the company is "devastated by these murders" and "shocked and saddened to learn that one our store employees was arrested as a suspect in these crimes.". They just do it for the Hell of it. When confusion arose after the episode's release, the podcast responded through Facebook saying "That is what we have heard from our sources.". Get all the stories you need-to-know from the most powerful name in news delivered first thing every morning to your inbox. And somebody yelled up that they had found a shoe. One is a middle-aged woman in her 40s with kids who is otherwise completely normal, and the new one who has come forward is a different woman in her 30s. It was initially believed the sketch that has been in public view over the last two years of a person in the age range of his 40's to 50's was a person of interest in this murder investigation. They were chatting at a party recently, and the friend asked the investigator about the dolls rumor, specifically asking if there was one doll or more than one doll at the crime scene. It could be literally anything. And they yelled out the type of shoe that Libby was wearing. State police officials have released a new short clip of the video recorded on Libby German's . D. Prater is Caleb Bowlin, eh? He posted them to his flickr and facebook. Police dont call this man a suspect or person of interest in the murders. Hes used to being part of teams with differing opinions. She said his eyes were dark and evil. It is unclear at the moment whether the Young BG sketch is from this witness or is the Catfish Boy used on Snapchat to lure in the girls, or if the drawing represents both the young man seen at the crime scene and the Catfish Boy lure. "I can't tell you eye color, but I can say they're not blue!" During an emotional press conference announcing the arrest of Allen on Monday, Indiana State Police (ISP) Superintendent Doug Carter stressed that the investigation is "far from complete. "That's when I ended up going back to the police station so we could get them phone information so they could start pinging, Becky was already there, Anna was already there, and it was a long night of coming up with anything we could do with phones. 2023 FOX News Network, LLC. Information sent by email is kept confidential and is only shared with investigators. Attorneys representing Allen said they got evidence from prosecutors Monday and expect this to take four to eight weeks to go . Law enforcement has said that the disposal sight was 0.5 miles from the end of the bridge and across the Deer Creek. Much like ISP's investigation, The Murder Sheet's probe into the Delphi killings is also far from over. The quality and relevance of these footprints is unknown. "When I'm asked to explain it, I say this case is like looking through a darkened window of a home: you can see what's going on in the living room but you have no idea what's happening in the kitchen or anywhere else inside the house," she said. They have a toy drive every year for the kids. "He also made it clear that the police investigation is still actively soliciting tips. Perhaps he was, and that would be an interesting theory. "I mean, is it a matter of police saying, 'hey, we're checking to make sure there are no other perpetrators and we're just going to tie up loose ends?'. Yes, the detective is great! 12 Noe Padilla, Lafayette Journal . After over five years, a man has been charged with murder in the deaths of Abigail Williams and Liberty German. The new sketch released during a press conference on April 22 2019. Further, this rumor was first made after the wife of a detective working on the case posted online. In a copy of that never-before-seen warrant, it was revealed that Libby and Abby lost a lot of blood during their murders and were not killed in the same location where their bodies were discovered along the Delphi Historic Trials. There were two deer standing up there. There were definitely dolls at the site that day. First, a pitch for supporting this website and our private sleuthing group: Our private group is clearly the best Delphi sleuthing group on the Internet by far and has been since it was founded four years ago in 2017. Yes I am a member of the private group. That is correct. Cult member who helped to send Charles Manson to prison for life dead at 73. That's why I think you should be able to get a pardon from illegal activities if you help a murder case, getting the killer is so much more important than convicting someone for drugs. At the moment, we have no idea that the boy in the catfish photo is the same young man who was seen at the bridge that day. Good news about your new team members. ine said. I do believe that the new developments in this case are pertinent and involve the early search on bicycle road in some way. Richard Allen is a pharmacy technician and married father who is accused in the 2017 murders of two girls, Abigail Williams and Liberty German, near an old railroad bridge in Delphi, Indiana . Though most have no idea of who Mr X is, it looks like you just said it in the replies. And we have two independent reports from search party members who agree that there were dolls at the crime scene. WLFI-18 wrote an article that day which said: The recording was longer than what has been released. The only reason they would be looking for that is if the crime was videotaped. Arent you a member of the private group? When she approached, offering help, the young man told her that he was waiting for his dad to pick him up. The crime was absolutely videotaped and photographed. Kim Riley. Did she see him before the crime or after the crime? Law enforcement said Libby started to video record before criminal behavior began to occur. J. Kyle Keener, aphotographer working for the newspaper Pharos Tribune took some of the highest quality photos of the investigation during February 14, 2017. Girls age 13-14 are notorious for missing periods some months and may even miss them for months at a time. Was the secret that one of them had found out she was pregnant? He ran into a guy and he was coming from the bridge. For the first time, investigators have released evidence to implicate Richard Allen in the murders of Libby German and Abby Williams during a . April 22, 2019 Indiana State Police News Bulletin, 3. But this also why the Old BG sketch is no good. Maybe he encountered the killer on his property and either knew or didn't knkw him and was scared to come forward cause he made threats or he knewhes get in trouble for drinking and maybe was so drunk he wasn't sure if it happened. failed . "If somebody knows something, they need to tell us. Judge Frances Gull opted to unseal the Richard Allen Probable Cause Affidavit, marking one of the first times documents related to the Delphi murders have been publicly released.. It turns out that the composite was fake in a sense. But a hatchet blow sure would have. ", CVS customer Betty Cummings told the Indy Star, "He just blended right in. Enjoying your content very much. The Indiana detectives investigating the 2017 Delphi murders claimed on Thursday to have new leads in the case and warned their suspect that they know who he is - but are yet to make any arrests . Allen, a 50-year-old CVS worker who has lived in Delphi for more than a decade, has pleaded not guilty to the charges. She added that in addition, one girl has stab wounds all over her body which in which these wooden objects were also jammed into. The exact body disposal location has never been released by law enforcement. I didnt see the girls at all. The quality of the DNA collected is unknown. The quote above was written by reporterAlexis McAdamsin an article that was printed by FOX59, IndyStar and CBS-4, if accurate, it would confirm that Libby's phone was recovered at the crime scene. Problem is if you are posting here, youre not posting in the private group. This includes the shocking revelation that the girls' killer may have staged the murder scene and that Libby had been in communication with alleged serial Snapchat catfish Kegan Kline before she died. when Libby posted a picture on Snapchat. DELPHI, Ind. This man was seen walking away from the Monon High bridge trail and Derrick asked if he had seen any girls on that trail. I sure hope so. I'm wondering if they're afraid that trying to explain the generation of the sketch would make the community less confident so it's easiest to attribute it to a sudden appearance of a witness. On February 19, 2017 law enforcement labeled the man in the image a prime suspect. Clearly someone who looked like him was both the Catfish Boy and was seen as a suspect at the crime scene, but perhaps it was not this young man. Now, as the investigation has matured and past information has been reassessed, it is the belief of investigators with the Multi-Agency Task Force that the person depicted in the sketch released on April 22nd more accurately represents the person wanted for the murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German. and our There is news via our LE source close to the investigation. ", Two different composite sketches and a grainy image of the murder suspect recovered from Libby German's cellphone. Investigators had previously released a different composite sketch that was "based on a previous witness," according to Carter. At every crime scene, you are going to have DNA. A new donor hopes that an addition to the reward fund for the Delphi murders in Indiana will help authorities catch the killer. The Monon High Bridge being rebuilt in 1915. DELPHI MURDERS: WHAT TO KNOW ABOUT THE 2017 KILLINGS OF LIBBY GERMAN AND ABBY WILLIAMS. The composite sketch was created after state police received new information from witnesses along the trail. On Oct. 28, 2022, police confirmed Richard Allen was being held in connection to the killings of Libby German and Abby Williams. and FSG saying he saw arguing couple. Great post. Interviewer: Is the attack itself on the recording? "Or is it a matter of they're strongly suspecting that other people were involved in some capacity and they want to run those things down? Thank you, dear. Is this where you are thinking that the items came from? On the other hand, there is a report from the south end of the bridge by a woman who said she saw Young BG there and scared him off her property. Journal and Courier article 1.2 M to Restore Monon High Bridge, 10. Its believed that the killer may be from or has lived in the city of Delphi. Attorneys with the prosecutors and defense met virtually Friday for the suspect in the Delphi killings. Further, he knows the subject inside out. We consider some stuff confirmed as in reports from police, official documents, and search party members. This young lady is a hero, theres no doubt, to have enough presence of mind to activate that video system on her cellphone, to record what we believe is criminal behavior that's about to occur. [5]. Robert Lindsay, Independent Journalist: l Talk about Things You're Not Supposed to Talk About. Yeah, they talk about me all the time, but they all hate me lol. The other elements were are not sure they agreed on are: a giant plush toy animal, possibly a bear; a crucifix hung upside down; dolls hanging in trees; and a knife plunged into a log with one of the girls hands wrapped around it to make it appear she had stabbed the tree.